No-gunsmithing installation the M8 mount can be installed in the field by anyone who can read the instructions and use the supplied Allen wrenches. All Rights Reserved. Price is $99.95. *Compatibility:The UltiMAK M8 mount fits only standard, GI spec barrels. $200 is more than I paid for the Vortex Sparc . Recoil lug, plus dual clamps attach quickly to any standard weight barrel without modifications. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. I've fryed several of them. This is a low rail mount that is low enough to cowitness on an AK rifle when mounted on an ultimak scout rail gas tube. Ultra-low mounting allows co-witnessing. Kalashnikov co-witness drama November 16, 2013 by Ak Operators Union, Local 47 74 9 Rifles used by one of the Spetsanz groups Once upon a time, some "internet warrior" declared that only correct way of using optics on Ak is, to have them installed in so called co-witness setup. If you're looking for it to line up w/the red dot, not likely. What is involved in mounting a rail in the forward scout position on a Loaded M1A? Not all of the receiver mounts cost an arm and a leg. in this thread in this sub-forum in the entire site How many round? Low profile enables co-witnessing of the factory sights with red dot sights. Works as a drop-in installation with any wood or synthetic stock. Sort of off topic ,but the budget dots will fry from the heat on the ultimak. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. (Like the Aimpoint PRO in low mount on my Scout Squad.) In addition, the Ultimak rail sits lower than the factory scout rail, so with the right optic and mount, you can cowitness a red dot with the iron sights. [email protected], Technical support and parts inquiries: *Compatibility:The UltiMAK M8 mount fits only standard, GI spec barrels. In the current Springfield line-up, the compatible models are; M1A Standard, M1A Scout Squad, SOCOM 16, SOCOM II, and M1A Tanker. Another interesting benefit of the M8 is that it allows you to co-witness your iron sights through a low sitting Aimpoint. [email protected]. That's normal, and should still be zeroed perfectly fine. Brownells Featured Dealers have agreed to perform FFL transfers on guns purchased online from Brownells. Category suggestion. Hard anodized The "co-witness" with an UltimAK is 1/3 lower Both of my AK's are pretty much dot on top of the front sight post. A lower 1/3 mount for the MRO can be found by using the link below: . It's much cheaper than the Ultimak rail, and in my experience, mounts more securely. The forward positioning allows faster targeting with better field of view, very forgiving eye relief, greater mounting versatility, and full access to the receiver mechanism and stripper clip guide with optics in place. It'll be mounted directly to a Scout Handguard or Fulton Armory rail system, to get as low as possible to receiver height and co-witness my irons. I was thinking of an SEI rail mount and Aimpoint, but for the optic mount wouldn't the LaRue be too high? Fits M-14/M1A with original, standard weight barrel profile, original National Match standard profile and most Chinese M1A clones. llows use of full length Scout scopes, pistol scopes, reflex sights, etc. If Larue ever made such a beast, I would get a few immediately. This is the mount that should have come with the M-14 from the beginning. To view the War Room you must have 5 posts as a registered member and you must PM timshufflin requesting admittance to the War Room.. Our Low Price $279.. 62 NATO Semi-Automatic 18" Rifle AA9126 $1,699.. How to mount red dot on m1a socom. You must log in or register to reply here. Cast steel or forged steel would be an improvement over the aluminum version ultimak makes so it would not heat up as fast and could be locked down even tighter due to the better compressive strength of steel over aluminum. I ordered one of the MI mounts for the Aimpoint T1, now to find a cut out hand guard. A good side mount will work fine, Springfield , Basset , etc You could also put an Ultimak rail on the front, they are rock solid.Have a real scout set up. check out the. For using the budget knock-offs which are not as low, can you just raise the front and rear sights both, a little, to get what you want? That's plenty for a scout scope or red dot, though. But for 200 bucks I expected better fit and finish. Works as a drop-in installation with any wood or synthetic stock. I'm leaning toward buying one for my M1A, but wanted to hear about others experiences or stories, good or bad. For standard weight barrels. Nowfor the first time ever, you can co-witness the factory M-14/M1A iron sights with tube bodied, reflex sights such as Aimpoint Micro or Trijicon MRO. SAI sells the scout rail and cut-out hand guard that you can install yourself. Best is to run cowitness AND on detachable mount. Since this system is designed to be able to quickly move a lever and remove, I do not worry about it. Not Available Dealers are dealers Brownells cannot ship guns to at this time. What about this KAC mount: p/n 99430, second one from the left around the middle of the page: Not enough to out weight the quality. Mine has an Aimpoint PRO in an Aimpoint 30mm low mount, mounted on an Ultimak rail. Price: $185. I don't recall the maker. I tried an EoTech XPS2-0 and it was pretty good, but boxy and a little too 'weight forward", so I robbed the DeltaPoint off my Carbine just for giggles. Decided to keep the original plastic on and not mount an optic. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. A forum community dedicated to shooting sports, firearm owners, and enthusiasts. Clamps directly to barrel for maximum stability and accuracy. The Picatinny-profile mount is made of hard anodized 6061-T6 aluminum in a matte black finish and includes hardware, a wrench and instructions for easy user-installation. I was looking at the rail on my scout model. In the current Springfield line-up, the compatible models are; M1A Standard, M1A Scout Squad, SOCOM 16, SOCOM II, and M1A Tanker. Hard anodized Choosing a Brownells Featured Dealer is the fastest and easiest way to complete your purchase. However I do not like the ultimak or scout scope with VLTOR stock but standard optics mount works well with the VLTOR stock. However I do not like the ultimak or scout scope with VLTOR stock but standard optics mount works well with the VLTOR stock. Dooh! It's similar to BWood's set up above. I have an Arsenal 105 AK74 w/o the scope rail and due to aging eyes am looking for optical solutions. Blackhawk Down photo Red dot alone is fine, but when I co-witness I get much more precise shot placement, granted that my irons are properly zeroed. I have one on my scout squad, mounted in the factory rail and no issues with heat and certainly no issues with holding zero. Can't seem to resolve that conflict. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. You will get one warning via a private message. This item is made of coated aluminum, so I decided not to modify it. mine is awaiting shipment to my ffl - can't wait, love the looks to swap out the brown top cover - pls send a link thanks! Fits original, standard weight barrel profile (H&R, Springfield, TRW, etc.). From what I have read you need a SHORT mount to get this to happen. With its 18-inch barrel and scout optics mount forward of the action, it's a slightly handier version of the full size M1A: the darling of competitive shooters for generations. They are one of my favorites though.. After shooting competition with the M1A, I really like open sights. Chief Armorer for Elite Shooting Sports in Manassas VA Chief Armorer for Corp Arms (FFL 07-08/SOT 02) Length: 12.3125 (12 & 5/16). NDZ Performance Muzzle Bore Wear Erosion Gauge Tool for M1 Garand M1 Carbine M1A M1903 M1903A3 M1917 Enfield 30 Caliber in Stainless Steel. BNIB Ultimak M8 Forward Optic Mount for the M1A/M14. Specter Gear, perhaps? ), I have a Meopta 1 X4 X 22 powered red dot on my SOCOM II works great mounted on quick detach rings, you should really give these a look. The m14.ca mount is available and it is rock solid. The M1A's controls are simple and robust. Sure hope the ACCS MD-25 works - such a good sight. Model# M8-Seconds. Clamps directly to barrel for maximum stability and accuracy. Includes instructions. [email protected], Technical support and parts inquiries: www.thearmorylife.com A Tanker with the Scout Squad scout mount handguard is essentlally a SOCOM with a wood stock. Provides increased aiming speed with optics mounted in the forward position. I have a scope on my Mini-14, and a FF III on one of my MNini-30's, both with Ultimak's, and they are super low. Will Not fit Springfield Loaded Standard, Match, Tactical, or other medium or heavy profile barrels. It is fine with factory stock. Mounting hardware and instructions included. JavaScript is disabled. My concerns are holding zero and heat transfer, being that it will be a forward mounted optic in this rifle. My mag-fed Mini-G carbine wears an Ultimak forward rail with a Sig Romeo5 RDS attached on a ADM Q.D. Seems to line up pretty good with the cheap voodoo cheek riser. Posted on April 9, 2023 by April 9, 2023 by Recoil lug, plus dual clamps attach quickly to standard weight, G.I. Mount remains in place during field stripping. Includes screws, barrel clamps, recoil lug, Allen wrenches, and easy instructions. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I really like my ACOG, but the EOTECH was the 'easiest' for me on my Sage stocked M1A: View attachment 199100 With this particular setup, the EOTECH doesn't co-witness out of the box and I changed to a Magpul butt stock that takes cheek risers (1/2") Good choice on the rifle and good luck choosing an optic! Thanks Frag. # 9 02-17-2014, 7:48 PM toiletfighter Fits standard weight M-14 and M1A barrels only. Yeah AA version batteries were not the problem. If not, what are you looking at? [email protected], Temporarily out of stock, but available as seconds (blemished) mounts in limited quantities. They look like they sit quite high. Which budget micros did you fry? Share your e-mail with us to receive regular sales, offers, and promotions. The system allows for co witnessing (the ability to use your iron sights right through a 1x sight as a back-up sighting system) when used with a tubular reflex sight. SAI sells the scout rail and cut-out hand guard that you can install yourself. Even then it is more like lower 1/3 co-witness. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Springfield Loaded Standard and all of their Match and Tactical models have heavier-than-standard barrels, which will not allow M8 mount installation. I have an ultimak with the aimpoint with low rings and it is a 1/3 co-witness (on socom 16) I run the vx3 scout scope mount on the scout with QD rings. I see that very setup in my near future. Easy installation: no modifications required. You must log in or register to reply here. Model# M8. ak iron dot from la rue is the only thing that co witness with the ak sights. . Ultra-low mounting allows co witnessing and an improved cheek weld - no need for a comb riser. 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