Over the past couple years here in The Peoples Republic of Illinois I have pooled my finances and purchased the contents of a couple gun shops being forced out of business, sold off the stuff I did not need to recoup some of my expenses. For the rest of eternity every four years there will be runs on ammo goods when a Democrat starts sniffing at the presidency. Its all about politics at its core. best comment of the day! No matter who is elected! A couple of new members of my local small club have taken on loading and have experienced primer issues of which I will certainly help them with some primers. Democrats are Anti-American and Anti-Constitutional scum. Theyre defending their interpretation of it. I appreciate your opinion. Labor to run it would be a whole lot cheaper. We are seeing the definition of spiritual warfare taking place before our very eyes. I call it.saving for a rainy day. Just think about how much better you will feel, relaxing in your front room, a skeen of yarn by your side and your knitting needles clicking away while a beautiful comforter materalizes in front of you from your dilligent efforts. The cost will be at least 3X normal. (stay safe !). I dont understand why we the people here in the USA cant get primers, yet you go to gun store website in Canada and they have them in stock. With primer prices approaching U$.10 cent each, they now cost the same as most 9mm bullets. So I load for almost nothing if I can get primers. I might not be able to reload, but I will have a clean butt for the next 5 to 10 years!! While lots of calibers of ammunition are slowly returning to many store shelves, primers havent really reappeared in any meaningful numbers since The Time Before. Even if they sell exclusively to manufacturers, that means more stock will be available from Olin and Vista. Refine by Primer Style: #11 Magnum Percussion Cap 209 In-Line. The political landscape is more volatile and explosive than ever. Some reloaders dont think it matters much but Im not in that camp. But Im still on the hunt. Left or Right may not matter soon. You know that. You could keep the limits in place and allow customers the peace of mind that when primers or other reloading supplies are available, they will be delivered in the order received Just a thought. The rally cry of they are coming for your guns when I no one knows who they is and they cant because its settled law because the peoples SC said so is really stale. Expansion Industries is planning to hire hundreds of people at their new facility, just east of Hooks. You cant be a Democrat and a gun supporter. All good news for us reloaders. Domestic manufacturers can't get components like primers, and lead/brass are mostly coming from Asia on ships. I ask, where do they get their primers? I then hit them with a rock, on a concrete sidewalk. In 2008 we saw a huge influx of Russian primers. Thank you ! I believe part of the shortage is artificial. The most important thing you said is PRAY to God for our country and our elected?? What I take away form this is the a small group of folks have taken what supplies there are and pushed them into the secondary market, just like what occurred with powder. After 40 years in LE I retired to do two things I love! Rio 209 Shotgun Primers $ 39. Cant find one single primer locally due to out of staters buying & hoarding local stocks. Thank you for your explanation and wish all the best. With Remington in a state of financial insolvency for the past two years, suppliers were demanding payment upon delivery for products. I understand having limits but 2000 primers and paying hazmat fee with shipping means I will not be buying any primers unless I need powder also. I guess the main thing that causes me to question the validity of this primer shortage and/or ammo shortage in general is that you can go to a website like bullseye north and see that theres plenty available in Canada. Really appreciate it. I reckoned. He boasted he would sell them at Gun Shows for100$-150$ a box.. and more. I really think manufacturers are hoarding for the uncertainty of our election, I agree with you when you take GOD out of everything,well just read what he did to Israelites !! This, I believe, is a prudent and responsible action to take. All of those that laughed me to scorn for hoarding flint locks have suddenly grown silent! And that was several months a go. For quite some time, there were virtually no primers available anywhere. Raw materials are not being mined/ processed in this country. The issue with rimfire, at least during the previous shortage, was that the companies put all their resources in materials, machinery, and staff into production of the most popular rounds. I dont care if they work in a Dillon tube or not just so they work in the cartridges. Id shot over 42K for the year with about 22K in primers left. Its also limiting the production of many popular types of ammunition. It is time to put God back in our country! Id like to see more thoughtful approach to allow your regular customers to get in line without hoarding and costing us all a fortune in hazmat. And yes, I did purchase primers after the last issue and am good to go. Its time for a new primer manufacturer to step forward. Probably wont get to use it until I can get more primers. Site Links. I wonder if possibly, there is an intentional shortage being perpetraed on us? Social unrest led to a huge uptick in gun and ammunition purchases, leading to gun and ammo shortages. Participant. Thank you Powder Valley Inc. for explaining and bringing clarity to the primer shortage. The ATF. Heard on the street is that there will soon be a shortage of golf balls since our lame duck president is finding time to play much more golf. This is to abolish the Constitution by leftist-interpretation that the Constitution is obsolete and needs to be abolished. People go crazy every time a democrat gets in office. 1. This is going to really hurt competition shooting. Do you have a market at that price? Prior to that date the cost ranged from a low of $20/1,000 to a high of about $35/1,000. I have cut back my consumption of all feeds to my gunning activities, shooting less and enjoying it less. Leaving us all with expensive boat anchors. Recently, they also have begun a recruiting drive, advertising an on-site job fair they have coming up Jan. 29. . If quantity restrictions are to be on orders, it needs to allow big enough order to off set the haz-mat fee. IF THAT IS TRUE, the shortage will ease up sometime in December. Cost Range. CCI APS Primers $ 36. Thank you folks at Powder Valley for taking the time to give a detailed explanation of what is going on. Misinformation throughout the debacle of our country deciding between Trump or democracy has been exceedingly dangerous. Refine by Primer Style: 209 In-Line 209M. You buy when the Republicans are in power because people think the supply chains are safe. I don't see any federal legislation on ammo or components so that should ease some minds . With import restrictions out of Russia, we do not anticipate seeing the help we had from them in 2008-2012. It was nice to read your article on the shortage of reloading supplies. Minuteman. Hope some of them get hired by the new ammo company. GM150M. How long before the companies that manufacture reloading equipment and those who sell it will start to feel the economic pressure from lack of the necessary components for reloading, not to mention the current political situation. I had really cut back on shotgun for a while. I keep saying this country is on a runaway train and the end of the track is out there somewhere. In fact, theyre holding a job fair to staff the facility at the end of this month. keep up the good work and thank you. You cant hunt ducks with more than 3 shells in your shotgun but assault weapon owners complain about not being able to able to load 50 rounds with a silenced report. Thank you. Yes, its got that bad! There you have it. Something I can add is, this is my 30th year in law enforcement and we have great concerns about ammo as well. I appreciate the time Powder Valley took to print this because I was wondering where the Wolf primers were. I wish Powder Valley would devise a backorder system where we could have an order in place when primers and other items become available. Im sick of this mess. The use has a implied negative connotation. I f you could up it to 3000 per person, the hazmat and shipping fees will not be so painful. We have had RECORD SALES of firearms for TWO YEARS. I was in here looking for any tips in finding primers for my shotgun reloading needs when I read into an array of political bullcrap thats weaseled its way into a beloved sport. The Remington bankruptcy has had a large impact on the shortage of ammo and primers. Ill keep checking and checking and hope for the best. You didnt mention the political agenda of the anti gun left. Any chance of Powder Valley starting a back order list so it isnt just by chance of looking at your site when you have a supply? I find myself wondering, just how many loaded rounds are enough? I have a lot of brass, it makes me recall, Nature abhors a vacuum. Empty brass needs to be filled more now that we are short on components. $53.99 Check With Your Local Ammo Store For Availability Bullet Style: Small Pistol; Ephesians 6:10-18 Available funds never allowed me to stock up so I didnt. Biden has openly stated he is coming after certain guns. But will they work in a Dillon? You would too. I say, America First! NO exporting reloading components Until our shelves are Full!! Very helpful to have some insight into whats going on behind the scenes in the primer world. Primers were available at a large sporting good, and gun shop near me as of last week. Unfortunately, knitting needles are also in short supply, and the demand for knitting needles has sky rocketed right along with primers. i just inherited from my brother 9 boxes 209 primers Winchesters ,, 2 boxes NSI 209 and 4 boxes of Remington sts 209 along with 8 bags #9 shot and tons of shells for reloading. Tired of waiting for 300 Blackout ammo, brass, or primers to become available. Thomas have a good idea. RAY CHARLES SAID IT GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN!!!! Overpriced, but at least available. Is the supply completely dried up or is it just a drip? Or RCBS ? Good thing a buddy and I got 1000sands-ez-ez es of the cheap euro primers and the fiochiis were cheap also. See images (2) and (3) above; When will ammunition be more available and cheaper? Hogden is probably going to have shortages for a while because Mulwex decided to rework their product lines and manufacturing processes. Had bought a brick of Win large pistol for $26 before it all started to climb. If not for today, then for tomorrow. 12 cents a primer is about what I have seen for online that is in stock as well. I suggest the rest of the reloaders reading this forum quietly build up their own stock pile when the current shortage is over. A single large buyer placed an order for 400 Million primers in early September. Especially the last paragraph. Thank you for this very well thought out article. Competition breeds success. They are fairly short on match grade primers but I bet if you start looking around your area you may be surprised by what you find. Its on Fantasy Island and will never get started, or. No coercion necessary, all they have to do is sell theirs cheaper than the start-up, and they put them out of business. I do have a fear that unethical commerce will ruin this sport and create dissension in its ranks in the name of profit. Raw materials and manufacturing have also been limited. If the traitors would quit attacking the Constitution, we would not have this problem. Smissen describes the new facility as state-of-the-art, featuring a high level of automation. Unless you have less than 100 rounds for your various calibers. All the years of letting God be taken out of society has caught up to us but its not too late to put Him back in charge. Ive had 2 different European primers that caused me to get a hand primer. Primers. That says nothing of indy ammo makers. My next birthday will make 70 trips around the sun, have decided that those days are coming to an end. So far the only new 209 primer supply for last 8 months have been Noble. Hopefully theyll be close to either the Winchester or the Federal 209a. The government is increasing the ordering of ammo! Home; Shop; Our Story; Contact Us; Someone poked themself with a knitting needle, so Congress banned them to protect us all. They may not get bans, or restrictions passed, but I CAN see them finding away to permanently break the current supply chain issue. Toilet paper was also in high demand but modern manufacturing made it more availability. Knitting needles over 2-3/4 inches long require a special permit in Washington state so I cant even take up knitting. Your report has put a lot of the rumors to rest for me . Because its not only consumers buying primers and then turning them into profit on gunbroker and the likes, its also retailers and retailer employees doing the same thing.. I just go this in my morning Email briefs: Im not a prepper, but Im starting to realize, prepping isnt a bad idea, in moderation. Outdoor shooting is a great hobby and that is about my only vice. Thanks for posting! Driving to Cabelas and being limited to 200 primers at a time takes the momentum out of hoarding. Your referenced supporters arent defending the Amendment. Aug 26, 2009 1,161 1,408 Oct 2, 2011 262 83 50 Billings MT. If they feel the government is trying to track them than have someone in here that took up knitting make you a tin yarn cap. I have been wondering where all the primers have gone. In Winchester testing labs, primers are constantly and rigorously tested for consistency and sensitivity at temperatures and conditions far beyond the range of normal usage. I was shooting a thousand rounds a month but now the trips to the range are few and far between. Very good analysis! Just stand by. We believe this is having an impact on availability, but probably not to the extreme that many think. Thanks for being there for us Powder Valley, it very much appreciated.. Primers will come back, and it be just like 22lr or hand sanitizer. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. No disrespect to ammo buyers, but if he big four are diverting the components to ammo manufacturing at the expense of the personal ammo makers, thats wrong. This leaves primers, which are relatively difficult to make, as the component that causes the bulk of ammo shortages. If theyre afraid to register a militarized weapon they have something to hide. So, if all the primers that would normally be be available for reloaders are being diverted for factory ammo, where is all the the factory ammo!?!? No limit,happy to help and friendliest people youll ever meet! Thanks for the information. I have no fear in anyone posing a threat to my gun ownership. Anyhow all the best to you and your company and for a brighter 2021. wrist rockets require no bullet powder or primers, ant wrist rocket ammo can be found for free on the ground if need be. Thanks Ryan for update, I feel your grief as I am in the tire business and they are shortages there also, parts for cars, lumber,etc I think the whole country is scared and rightfully so! Seriously do not live out of the gun shop. Jack#9. dang, was thinking more of casting /testing hand rolled 12 guage slugs, Talk about shortage. We have seen the cost of our practice ammunition go up 3-4X over the past few years and now cant even find any. There are too many people wanting their way and not Gods way and God is tired of the disrespect and is letting it be known!! FREE SHIPPING. As kid in 1968 or so, I did that once to a whole roll of caps for my cowboy cap gun. Shes saying that there are shortages of yarn like you wouldnt believe. Can i get on a waiting list to at least expect some small rifel or pistol primers eventually in some kind of order? Do Powder Valley employees do what Ive heard about another big retailer, and their employees tell all their friends and family and hold them back and then poof.theyre out of primers! $100 million invested in the factory, and they hired the neighbors nephew with a harbor freight welder to make the sign on their gate. So, I dug up dads hammer and went to the front sidewalk. I believe in part its because of the law suits that destroyed Remington and now going after Cabelas/ Bass pro. I cut my shooting by 75%! Industry capacity is roughly 4.6 million primers per day. I love to reload, Thank you for info. Back in the 70s those caps were powerful! And for 95% of people thats the best way to handle it. Knitting needles has sky rocketed right along with primers reloaders dont think it matters much but Im not that. 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