Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. When the rocket reaches the shore, or the vessel in distress, the light weight shot line is used to haul over a larger line to carry out rescue operation. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. The new apparatus would utilize the quick-firing, weather-proof projectile less effected by wind, as well as the far-traveling, easy-to-see, virtually recoilless rocket that wouldnt snap the lifelines. Rare* WW2 Type 90 Japanese Naval DOUBLE Barrelled Flare / Signal pistol. have lots of neat: If a firearm is unusual enough, it enters into that special place of curiosa: the Gyrojet, harmonica guns, duckfoot pistols, cane guns, and on and on. So only fair I give him a mention especially as he went on to invent items that have saved so many lives over the years. Advanced As an aside, anyone who has ever fired a 1" pistol will know that the recoil would rip that small stud off (there is only one BTW) after one or two shots. Suggest it be merged in to Frank Zappa with a link from here?Billlion (talk) 08:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Given the generic nature of the page subject, is it appropriate to highlight this one historical incident so prominently? WW1 Schermulys Trench Flare Pistol. This example shows the less common fluid filled clinometer level. *UK 2017 DEACTIVATION CERTIFICATED*. I always thought it was just one of those foreign words the British Army had picked up on its travels, until I I saw a Schermuly branded rocket in a museum. Add to Compare. Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. Non-Commercial educational use for the purpose of teaching and instruction, including internal training. JC Militaria Ltd. 3 photos. When water-based transportation and shipping was so prevalent and important, the impact of his life saving devices cannot be overlooked, no matter how easy it may be do so in a modern world where that technology has largely been replaced. Digital files of films and sound recordings are available at cost depending on intended use. The Schermuly Pistol Rocket Apparatus (SPRA) was born and immediately began outperforming the competition, often doubling or tripling the distance of other ship-to-shore systems and demonstrating numerous advantages of old shore-to-ship systems such as the Lyle gun. Within a year the business was stable. Schermuly made them from the 1920s up WW2 1944 U. S. Navy Sedgley MK IV 37mm Flare/ Signal Pistol. It German Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol By 'Gebr. Produced during the 1920's and highly successful for the throwing of line from shore to ship, or ship. Conrad was the business brains, but his younger brother Alfred my grandfather was the company pyrotechnical expert. (LogOut/ Besides the guns Gaynor covers 29 holster or carrying kits, and 19 different types of cartridges, along with a 10 page table with more detailed info on cartridges. His rockets would propel grapnel hooks, which were used by U.S. Rangers on D-Day. The dealer will have you fill out a 4473 form ("yellow It didnt take long before the British Admiralty was eating crow and the SPRA was adopted into the standard equipment aboard the Royal Navy. For details on how we use your data, please see our, 2023 gunstar.co.uk - all rights reserved - a member of the Friday-Ad network|, I would like to receive the newsletter for savings opportunities and suggestions. His invention was usually ignored by the Admiralty, but by 1922 was used by 22 leading shipping lines. During WWI & WWII the Royal Navy would fire flares high into the sky at night whilst patrolling for German U-Boats. Overall fine to excellent outside with most of the gloss black paint finish remaining. Firearms with fascinating histories such as this abound in our firearms auctions, and the 2018 June Regional Firearms Auction is no exception. D 1501. Schermuly selected a pistol sized firing device for its size, slapped a long barrel on it, and used the gases of a pistol-style cartridge (essentially a blank round) to eject the rocket from the barrel, penetrate the water-proof disc at its base, and ignite the propellant of now smaller, steel cased rocket. Notice- Because of bureaucratic requirements, we cannot sell cartridge firearms 1 Mark III flare signal pistol marked SPRA for the Schermuly Pyrotechnic Rocket Association on the frame and commercial crown proofs on the barrel. Your last viewed and saved ads will appear here, Your last viewed and saved searches will appear here, Please select a location from the drop-down list. Stenciled on both sides: Parts, accessories, 245 US$306/278 Verey 1 inch Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H (6) S/H Buckinghamshire Also send me selected promotions from trusted 3rd parties. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). The drawing allow you easily identify your gun with the one in the book. Flares and distress signals were also made in many versions. We Schermuly also developed a way to better lay the line inside the case (called flaking the line) so that it would feed more easily and reliably while taking up less space. WW1 Imperial German Army Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol. 12/7/2022, Accessories & Parts Please feel free to email me. Following his lead, numerous ship-borne devices became available to save grounded ships, but they were inaccurate, prone to water damage, complicated, or worse. This Line Throwing gun is in Great condition, as HOME GUNS FOR SALE Browse Categories Used Guns For Sale Rifles For Sale Shotguns For Sale 10/25/2022 Scarce, Original, WW2 Imperial Japanese Navy, Second Variation Type 90 Triple Barrelled Flare/ Sign up to receive the latest news, advice and ads, straight to your inbox. British Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus (SPRA) in very good condition. here for telephone contact information. When fired, the flash from the cartridge ignites the rocket motor which then travels up to 250 yards. Return to Collectors firearms are sold as collectors items only. Compact Distress Signal Order code: 9556660 The lightweight, Pains Wessex Compact Distress Signal pack contains 3 red aerial flare cartridges and a penjector firing mechanism, all enclosed in a tough, water-resistant case. The brass butt cap, trigger guard and band have a mellow golden patina. This is the "International Number 2" size unit, using 41mm rockets, with 15 7/8" barrel. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. to customers outside the United States. This might sound a bit Heath Robinson but apparently, there were successes when used from ships. It is a simple shotgun-like device, designed to project riot control munitions, such as CS gas projectiles or, more commonly, baton rounds. $575.00 (View Picture), **NEW ADDITION** 19995 RARE WW1 37mm BRITISH FLARE GUN CARTRIDGE- DEC 1918 - Paper case with brass base marked ELEY LONDON- and closing wad marked However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. The device would have to be inexpensive, reliable, compact, and easy to use even in the worst of conditions. The compact system could project a half inch line up to three quarters of a mile away. 12/7/2022, U.S. Longarms William Schermuly 1857-1929 was one of the fathers of modern rocketry. CODE- 20020-B This WW1 piece was probably Canadian issue in WW1. Both pistols are currently live having only just been discovered. Items Given the number of people who collect flare guns it is amazing that there is not more written on the subject. particular Line gun. directly to you, as long as there are no state or local restrictions (California??). Many ships were lost within sight of the coast because a line could not be secured, existing methods of tying lines to cannonballs or using complicated and difficult to use rockets were completely unsatisfactory. Ruger 10-22 DSP SP classic .22LR semi automatic sporting rifle. During the Great War, the Canadian Army even began using them to throw telephone lines from trench to trench to avoid exposing troops to enemy fire. One of those guns that isnt unusual in its appearance, yet performs its task in an unusual manner is the Schermuly Line Throwing gun. to e-mail us. WW2 1944 U. S. Navy Sedgley MK IV 37mm Flare/ Signal Pistol. 20069. You can embed or download low-resolution images free of charge for private and non-commercial use under the IWM Non-Commercial Licence. Robert Shackleton outfitted one on the Endurance, and other famous explorers gave their glowing endorsements. Holsters, prior to firing. Besides, ship-borne lifesaving devices could also be used from ship to ship while at sea. Versatile, think of lifelines, phone lines, barbed wire etc. Israeli Flare Gun Holster, Green / Khaki Canvas, *Very Good* $11.95. Category Other Guns. early serial #5305. Surprisingly still functional. This is an old English made Schermuly Line Throwing Gun. This is a very useful and accurately researched book on this specialized topic, which we use every time we encounter any flare or signal gun, and one that anyone interested in Flare or Signal guns needs in their library. 1 Mark I signal pistol with a shoulder stock, or the No. British 1917 Dated WWI Webley & Scott No2-MkI Flare/Signal Pistol. New lower starting price and lower buy it now price! In WWI the Canadian Army used them for projecting telegraph cables from trench to trench whilst under fire and a rocket that fired a grappling hook to enable barbed wire entanglements to be quietly pulled away also found some use. The pistol is based on the Webley & Scott brass flare pistol, with a steel barrel extension to take a rocket that would propel a wire over distance. It is a terrifying thought to be so close to shore, but trapped aboard a ship disintegrating with every crash of the waves. Theoretically, the approval number should allow dating these to within a five year period corresponding with the date of USCG approval under section section 160.040 covering life saving appliances. They can be purchased on a firearms license with the correct variation or deactivated to order with a full working action (cock, strip and dry fire). Schermuly made them from the 1920s up British WW1 1916 Dated Brass 1" MK III Trench Flare / Signal Pistol By Cogswell & Harrison London. To drive the point home of how important this invention was, ships during this time were still dependent on sail or steam for power, and commonly ran aground. Mechanically good, and in original flint, not a reconversion. Scarce, Original, WW2 Imperial Japanese Navy, Second Variation Type 90 Triple Barrelled Flare/ Sign up to receive the latest news, advice and ads, straight to your inbox. However, to equip each ship with a Lyle gun or similar device would prove exceedingly expensive and take up space and weight, two precious commodities on a fully crewed cargo ship. http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30032636. The fire plume and smoke trail made the line easy to find for the rescuing surf crews. Downloading audio-visual for non-commercial offline listening or viewing. There were numerous signal flares, various uses for projected lines, and perhaps most pleasing to the inventor, several ways to aid seamen in peril on the sea, such as lifeboat distress signals and self-inflating life rafts that automatically fired rocket propelled lines into the water so that the crew could pull themselves aboard. Named for their inventor, West Point and MIT graduate First Lieutenant David A. Lyle, these guns were heavy, experienced massive recoil, and used a special type of blackpowder, making them a welcome rescue tool though difficult and cumbersome to use. Obviously there was room for improvement, and that was not lost upon William Schermuly a former seaman who was later quite involved in the pioneering of modern rocketry. This is a scarce, commercial proofed British No. The wire could be attached to a cable to help transfer people from ship to ship or shore to ship. 4/7/2023, Mauser Pistol firearm that you want, let us know and we will hold it for you. (LogOut/ This item is completely legal within the USA. We prefer you ask by e-mail so we will have time to pull items before answering, We warrant them to be as described, Not to mention that Schermuly also saw immense benefit in the visibility of a rocket being fired toward shore. For details on how we use your data, please see our, 2023 gunstar.co.uk - all rights reserved - a member of the Friday-Ad network|, I would like to receive the newsletter for savings opportunities and suggestions, Sign me up to the gunstar.co.uk newsletter, Send me offers and promotions from third parties. This is a Schermuly type life saving line throwing gun which uses a small pistol type launcher firing a stubby impulse-ignition cartridge. Before firing, a rocket motor with an attached wire frame sticking back for attachment of the line is inserted in the muzzle. Schermulys invention didnt just disappear with the glory days of the British Empire. WEBLEY SCHERMULY MADE IN ENGLAND or check with the owner if they are consignment pieces. There is a poorly struck crown over E on the lockplate, similar to that used by several French arsenals. It was only after the SS Rohilla sank after hitting a mine in 1914 that the British Admiralty placed their first order for Schermuly rockets to be placed aboard troop and hospital ships. These were used with the International Flare Signal and Kilgore Model 52 flare guns, and probably all the other heavy 37mm flare guns with barrels about 8-8.5 inches long. fired a short blank cartridge which ejected the rocket, the rocket then ignited and propelled the line to the target ship, shore or person in distress. SERIAL NUMBER 21701. Overall fine condition, although bore is dirty, and some scrapes on the barrel paint. Loaded, live round, but due to age and apparent poor storages sold as display item only and not safe for actual use. William Schermuly's previous line throwing inventions were pretty bulky and he wanted to perfect a device which a child could use. 12/7/2022, Books for My old man has a couple of the line throwing guns too beauties. Despite achieving some success with the apparatus Schermuly wanted further improvements, especially in the ease of use department. Here is a link https://archive.org/stream/plasticsurgeryof00gilluoft#page/254/mode/2up I leave this here in case it is of any future use Lucasdealmeidasm (talk) 10:30, 1 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], The purpose of the link to Firearm is really for people who do not know what "firearm" means, ie a hand portable gun. 3 photos new British 1917 Dated WWI Webley & Scott 'No2-MkI' Flare/Signal Pistol. 150 pounder Armstrong Gun at West Poin The Snider Bullet 11/5/16, British Schermuly line throwing gun at auction. Schermuly surmised that to remedy these short-comings, a lifeline could instead be fired from the vessel. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Search The pistol barrel has an extra handle to steady the gun when firing. However, it was not enough. If you don't know of any FFL Price for Kilgore GR-52 line throwing pistol and one fired case is $265.00 (View Picture). 450 ONO. In fact, except for brief passage in obscure manuals, or discussion of a gun or two the scope of a more general work there is nothing conveniently available on this subject. Schermuly made them from the 1920s up . Despite being given a stiff ignoring by the Admiralty I am not sure what the purpose of the article Firearm (tool) is but in this context someone who did not know might be think that the distinction between firearms and guns is that the former is not used to kill people! If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. [email protected] thanks. This is a pair of extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistols fitted with extra long barrel extensions. 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