The "windows" are a plastic box that fits inside the car body so the windows are not flush with the outside of the car body. Many older CB&Qhead end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so theywould not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-sidestainless steel cars. Most all of my Rivarossi/AHM cars have interiors, I add weight in the vestibules (the rectangular 'peel and stick' weights) since the cars are pretty light. In the early years Rivarossi catered to children because Alessandro was producing trains with speeds in a more realistic ratio to scale. I field tested this set with a Spectrum 4-4-0 on 18" EZ track. I have a run to Spokane Tomorrow, so I may actually get to stop at PF&S, if You talk to Leroy or Sharon, tell them Hi, for me, they will know Me, I am just one of several Truck Drivers that stop there every so often. Thought I'd help the grandnephew with his new layout. Deutsche Bahn, RhB, SBB, und BB Modelleisenbahn, http://www.modeltrainforum.com/showthread.php?t=22525. L&N Baggage car 205 was 60ft 9 1/2 inches over end sills. http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=141874#post141874, Tourist Railroad and Railway Museum Directory. 2) ''Modern'' or''OldTime''passenger cars? At one time, I had four sets of four Rivarossi 60' passenger cars. Add To Wish List. This was a problem as the needlepoint axle ends wore into the soft plastic truck sideframes. They all needed weight. Riva Rossi presents the iconic Pullman 60 ft. passenger coaches that ran for many decades all over the country being pulled by early diesels and steam locomotives from the 1920S through the early 1950S. Always enjoyable seeing passenger car topics popping up. Rivarossi is decent, although most if not all of their models have a small level of inaccuracy or missing some detail (which detail parts can fix). The car floors were predrilled with holes for wiring the car for electrical pickup from the trucks for lighting, but the wheels were plastic. As some of the others have said, there are two different sets. I have an old NYC Hudson that runs great and will also run on code 83 track after I turned down the flanges with my dremel and stone wheel. i put a few ounces of lead type slugs inside the cars for extra weight. 99 $8. I just wanted to confirm that Hornby now owns Rivarossi and you won't find Athearn in the Walthers catalog or website anymore as Horizon & Walthers are competetive distributors now and don't sell each others' products. I have ten Rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars I run with a A/B set of Athearn PAs. When I was buying them in the 1980s, interiors were optional, iirc. They came with both horn hooks and knuckle couplers and I can't remember which were mounted when I got them. JavaScript is disabled. These were not really prototypical. 1947 Mexico Gold 50 Pesos Restrike - BU - 1.2056 oz. The same guy (Bernard Paul) was involved in both, but the products were not the same. I've just recently started work on converting some Rivarossi Pullmans, coaches, and diners, along with some MDC and Walthers coach roofs, into 17 or 18 wooden head-end cars (baggage/express/postal cars, along with a battery charging car. I intend to replace the trucks in the long run with the 41-BNO series, which was often found on ACL and Southern Railway Budd units. Add Quote. Picture . As mentioned earlier, these were produced by American manufacturer Athearn and remained in the catalog until 1963. I also have 83 passenger cars. Mid-grade? But even in the late 50's and early 60's, I remember a couple Q steam fan trips where they were still able to assemble a complete green heavyweight train - my few photos from those trips where my "people filter" was really working look just like old Lucius Beebe steam portraits. The stock was limited and sold out rather quickly. I believe Chicago Northwestern prototype. If so, sounds great. The 4) Do you plan to run those four cars together in one train or split them up between two or three trainsand then addother brands of passenger cars with truck or body mount couplers to make up a train or two or three of eight cars eachmore or less? Hi. HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi (5) Passenger Cars "Baltimore & Ohio" Lot#1246. Ho RIVAROSSI 4-6-2 " Light Pacific" C.B.&Q #462 BURLINGTON ROUTE Nice! Rivarossi; Scalextric; Close sub menu. About that time, four 60' heavyweight cars (RPO, Baggage, Combine, Coach) all based on CNW prototypes came out. This is Rivarossi's postal/express baggage car, altered a bit to better ressemble a CNR prototype. These sets occasionally appear now on eBay, with 4 car sets often going for around $100. Sometimes the metal wheels found their way on to the unlighted cars. If you get a chance to look around, Walthers packaged a set of three coaches with trainsets. Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives, The MDC/Harriman cars are 60' cars with truck-mounted couplers which will allow them to run on 18"R curves. In general they aren't as good as current Bachmann and previous Bachmann Spectrum cars. In coaches in the 70ft 0in size range is series 2395 to 2399 inclusive where are diagrammed as 60ft 4.5 in interior length, 61ft 2in over end sills, 69ft 0in over platforms, & 70ft 3 and 3/4 inches over buffers. This vendor had a half dozen sets a couple of weeks ago and that was the last I am told. Est. 8% positiveSeller 99. www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com. These really need to be re-trucked with proper flange width axles, and you have to plug the talgo-type snap pin hole for a solid screw mount. Due Early December, 2022. I used Kadee 33" wheel sets. The wood coaches would not be out of place if you are modeling the '30's-40's. (To keep the clasp brakes, 33" wheels would work without interference). All the cars are in their original boxes. No 96 RAF Blue - Matt 2.69. Enjoy your new engine. I weakened and bought a boat tail observation car because it was cool, not because the B&M ever owned one. Rivarossi; N Freight Trucks; N Passenger Car Trucks; Gas Turbine; U-50; N Raintree Products - Hood Shells; . Frequently bought together + Total price: Add both to Cart $9.66 Amazon Basics Remote Control Battery Operated Hobby Train 4-Car Set with Light and Sounds - 2.4GHz 28 4 offers from $19.94 Adding diaphragms helps appearance too. with that kind of power, any wheels that do not want to roll will just slide along although none do. I'm afraid they'll vanish from the marketplace, Modeling the Wabash from Detroit to Montpelier Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, This required modifications to the underframe to accommodate the center mounting point versus the older Rivarossi asymmetrical approach. I don't own any yet, unfortunately. They come with basic interiors, and I've seen three car sets (baggage, 2 coaches) available NIB in the local LHS recently, $50 give or take. 1) Specifically, what engine would be used to pull the ATSF or the Burlington version?2) Was the ATSF version [prototype] and the Burlington version [prototype] really the same green color, or did Rivarossi simply choose a color and apply it to both roadnames?3) What era [time frame] is suitable for these 60' passenger cars? according to my math, the coupler height difference would only be .023. that is 23 thousandths of an inch. The Set A and Set B are OK cars. 9) Will you need to back the car on to another track or through a turnout/switch or will the cars only go forward? Railway: DB. Not inexpensive, $130 IIRC. While the models' detailing may match nobody's actual car, the 60 foot length certainly does - for instance, the floor plan I'm looking at right now for L&N "Mail cars 1106 to 1112 including 1114". Mine were lettered for the Burlington but I removed that and relettered them for my fictional branchline. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green' wasn't GREEN at all. It did require shaving away some of the cast on brake shoes but with care you can shave away enough to retain the "look" of the shoes yet let the wheels turn freely. . All the cars date from the 1920's. Thank you. No 60 Scarlet - Matt 2.69. I don't believe they are doing the Athearn BB passenger cars anymore (again, Could be wrong) or at least I couldn't ferret any of them out at Walther's website. But by 1940 I'd guess 99% of passenger cars in service on std. Rivarossi 60' HO Passenger Car Set Unboxing & Review 2,291 views May 1, 2020 49 Dislike Share Save Trainman440 1.25K subscribers Hi guys! Regardless of railroad. I am getting a four car set of 60 foot cars. RIVAROSSI HO SCALE U25C DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE (#266188039026) d***r (61) - Feedback left by buyer d***r . AU $51.94 . I also have a set of the "Southern Crescent". Top Rated Plus. Took about an hour of carefull work as to not get the metal rims to hot. manage your account online and more! it is your call, but i would try the 33 inch wheel sets in one car and see if i was happy with that. 5217-5219 - St Louis Car-built 1937. The combine and diner matched ATSF prototypes, the pullman was a standard type, as was the observattion. I bought a set from the same vendor a couple of weeks ago. Cycling. The newer sets of the 60' cars are of higher quality. Perfect for the tight curves on my branchline. I believe Chicago Northwestern prototype. The book Union Pacific Streamliners . I painted a lot of undecorated figures, although not Mel-quality. If Shorter passenger cars are your thing, you might also look into ebay (or similar) for some older Athearn Blue Box kits. The RPO was placed in service on the mainline mail train and lettered for that. Bachmann & Rivarossi HO Scale Assorted Passenger Cars [6] EX. Its a Red Box 4-8-8-2 cab forward. Big dog's bark is definitely worse than his bite ( never bit anyone that I know of, but he is intimidating, if you don't know him) Plan on lots of time in there, after you wander around awhile, LeRoy will talk your ears off. One baggage, one RPO, one combine and one coach. Electric lights and air conditioning with center air duct. Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipment in many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment. I can't wait until my set arrives. 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There were more recent runs of Rivarossi 72' cars that have a completely different design, more in line with what Walthers uses on their Proto line, probably both made by Hornby which purchased the assets of Rivarossi a few years back. . -fm Perpetrator of the Haggis Decal Project, at, On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:21:44 UTC, "Christian" wrote: 2000. The Set A and Set B are OK cars. Close, maybe, Really correct, no. They are much more free rolling, They come with body mounted couplers out of the box (but the set I got were McHenry rather than Kadee). The interiors an be purchased separately. I've since replaced them with KDs. I didn't think he should PolyTech Forum website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. However, if you prefer to keep the factor Rivarossi trucks, metal wheel replacements seem to work fine on them. Those coaches look short. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Consist #2 - 13 Cars 920-829 Advanced Reservation Availability: Sold Out Expected: 01-Feb-2024 HO Scale $1,535.00 View Product Add to Wishlist HO Scale WalthersProto Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Washington Section - 3 Cars 920-830 Advanced Reservation Espee used dark olive which was not Pullman green. Many railroads used these cars or similar ones from the 1900's well into the diesel era. By todays standards they . HO Scale Athearn HO 84857 50' Old Time Overland Passenger Car Set, Great Northern #1 (4) SKU: ATH-84857. I would be interesting in knowing which cars you were getting - the 1960's era AHM/Rivarossi 70-80' cars, or the 2000's era Rivarossi/Walthers/etc. 00 and the Y6b retailed for $29. it all worked out well with the smaller wheels. I do have Bachman and Proto 72-foot RPO's, but most are 70' and shorter. Rivarossi HO #2882 1920 Pullman -Southern Pacific Night Fern RTR NIB! Premier> Name trains got the pretty paint. View cart for details. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. If anyone has some good ideas on how to upgrade these passenger cars I'd appreciate it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They were 60ft 10 1/4 inches over the end sills and 60ft 1inch interior length. Item Add to Wish List. This product has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is limited to the quantity on hand. I'd always thought (not sure why) that Rivarossi was an off-brand, to be avoided if detail was a consideration. > > So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars from> the turn of the century until after WWII. I am looking at getting a four car set of rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars in GN livery. The roofs may, or may not, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truck enamel'. No problem, Glad you found what you were looking for. Walthers 910-31101 HO scale 60' Thrall Material Handling Car MHC-2 Amtrak #1541. HO Rivarossi MISSOURI PACIFIC COLORADO EAGLE OBS SHRINE TOWER Passenger Car IOB. The Proto Budd RPO is 65'. Yves The Pocher factory was in Turino, Italy and the RivaRossi factory in Como, Italy. All have truck mounted horn-hook couplers, and they stay on the track just fine. Oddly enough, those 4 cars were based on cars that really were only 60' long, so technically weren't "shorties" eitheralthough they were pretty short. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for I Rivarossi Level Passage at the best online prices at eBay! On the 22" line and they ran through a number of turnouts fine both forward and backward. O SCALE AHM RIVAROSSI 4 CAR BOXED PASSENGER CAR SET-C-9-used-Original Boxes! The roofs may, or maynot, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truckenamel'. They come with or without interiors. You will find locals passing through Wisconsin with those headend cars and the coaches. Rivarossi began to produce its own HO scale American style Heavy Weight 1920's era passenger coaches in 1964. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green'wasn't GREEN at all. So, it was actually a DARK yellowish black. However, I don't do too much, just adding say 1 oz. So many choices but so little time. A lot of work but I wanted to keep the car for whatever reason. Back then I was able to order interiors for all of them. The Rivarossi RPO's are 60-footers. Where I disagree is that their diesels weren't any good. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 . Rivarossi 2709 US Passenger Car New York Central Gauge H0 Unrecorded Boxed | Collectables, Model Railways & Trains, Railways & Trains | eBay! Painted Daylight 1941 for the San Joaquin. cars. Raised on the Erie Lackawanna Mainline- Supt. The depression was in full swing then, and any servicable equipment would be used as long as possible. Unfortunately I don't get up that way, that is why we have a resident driver in Fife, we bring him his loaded trailers, take home his yesterday empty, and it is not an overnight for either of us that way. Butadd more resistance which may not be a good thing. These 60'ers are just the ticket for my smaller layout. I'm looking forward to these cars, specifically the RPO and the baggage. ), it's going to be a lot easier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists that don't look as much like a boxed set. These were the last cars made by Rivarossi before they went bankrupt, too bad as they were well finished and tracked well. Appreciate it.. You have to go to theHorizonwebsite to find what's available. On the cars pictured below I replaced the stock Rivarossi "Pizza Cutter" wheels with Proto 2000 36" wheel sets. The earlier runs of Rivarossi locos have the pizza cutter flanges that will not run on any track smaller than code 100 (the track that comes with trainsets). They are flute side streamline cars, marked for my favorite road the Boston and Maine. They have springy diaphrams on the end doors. I bought some a while ago and they have given me nothing but problems to deal with. The cars are brand new old stock. But even in the late 50's and early 60's, I remembera couple Q steam fan trips where they were still able to assemble a completegreen heavyweight train - my few photos from those trips where my "peoplefilter" was really working look just like old Lucius Beebe steam portraits.GQ. You are using an out of date browser. Anxiously waiting. if not, you can always use them to upgrade some freight cars. http://cgi.ebay.com/HO-Rivarossi-Passenger-Car-Set-Santa-Fe-600229_W0QQitemZ220195710250QQihZ012QQcategoryZ19129QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem. Merged into another company (Rapido??). Are they underscale? As you can see, Out of stock or discontinued when sold out (as all the 60'ers are).. You might also look at Con-Cor, IHC under which, a lot of the same cars were marketed. I looked at these cars with interest. though, not exact replicas, they do make a decent looking train. The Rivarossi combine and coach are supposed to be models of C&NW Chicago area commuter cars, which, of course were generally shorter than intercity cars. Con-Cor and Rivarossi may well get away with 18". #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters Be the first to review this product $5.99 Availability: In stock 287 in stock SKU 508 Add to Cart #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters is available to buy in increments of 1 Details #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters 1pr. I do think that you will be very Happy with these, I like mine very much. Add a couple of traction tires to each of the 8-wheel engines and you have a locomotive that can pull a ton of cars. Car & Truck Safety & Security Accessories, Passenger Car Interior KIT for Rivarossi 85ft Heavy-Weight DINER [ HO ]. I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM)cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where theprototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. 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